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rachel jeantel, the girl who was on the phone with trayvon when he died. does her race have anything to do with how people perceive her credibility. >>> and aaron hernandez's dangerous past. how in the world did he end up with a $40 million contract from the patriots? >>> plus the obama administration repeatedly going after another leaker, but this time, he's a close friend of the president of the united states. >>> and what led to a brawl at a drag queen beauty pageant? you'll see it in full. ♪ [ girl ] there are man-eating sharks in every ocean... but we still swim. every second, somewhere in the world, lightning strikes... but we still play in the rain. poisonous snakes can be found in 49 of the 50 states, but we still go looking for adventure. a car can crash... a house can crumble... but we still drive... and love coming home. because i think deep down we know... all the bad things that can happen in life... they can't stop us from making our lives... good. ♪ ♪ to fly home for the big family reunion. you must be garth's father? hello. mother. mo
rachel jeantel, the girl who was on the phone with trayvon when he died. does her race have anything to do with how people perceive her credibility. >>> and aaron hernandez's dangerous past. how in the world did he end up with a $40 million contract from the patriots? >>> plus the obama administration repeatedly going after another leaker, but this time, he's a close friend of the president of the united states. >>> and what led to a brawl at a drag queen beauty...
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day four, the same friend, rachel, returned to the witness stand and very different demeanor. challenged by the defense about inconsistencies in her testimony. and yesterday we heard from a neighbor who probably had the best view of the struggle between the two men. let's bring in former federal prosecutor doug burns. doug, quite a first week in any case. this one in particular. i want to start by playing a sou soundbite of trayvon martin's friend who said she heard him say certain things that she's only really telling us now. listen. >> i heard trayvon saying get off, get off. >> a letter on march 19. at month time did you mention that you heard ray votrayvon ma say get off, get off, get off. correct? is that yes, did you not say that? >> yes. >> lot of people say she mumbles. i don't know if that's an intentional strategy but what she said is -- for the first time, she's telling not in to the incident but much later get off, get off is what she said. she didn't put tonight a letter, she didn't tell to it investigators or trayvon martin's mother. at that point is should the d
day four, the same friend, rachel, returned to the witness stand and very different demeanor. challenged by the defense about inconsistencies in her testimony. and yesterday we heard from a neighbor who probably had the best view of the struggle between the two men. let's bring in former federal prosecutor doug burns. doug, quite a first week in any case. this one in particular. i want to start by playing a sou soundbite of trayvon martin's friend who said she heard him say certain things that...
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this came two days after we watched rachel, who was the girl that martin talked to on the phone. she gave inconsistent and at times didn't seem like she was not wanting to be there and edgy at moments and we have testimony of john good win. and doug joins me now a former federal prosecutor. >> thank you. >> you said you have to be careful what you are watching in this is points being put on the board very carefully. we don't have a full picture yet in terms of the way it is going. >> no, a trial is like a roller coaster and sports contest. one team makes a play. oh, that's it and they are dominating and guess what they make a come back. i analyze trial and don't like to say this means the defense wins or prosecutor wins. it is a paint. they are like painters. prosecutors want to paint it on canvass that it was a s if fight. you can't kill the person if you are losing. defense is painting, no, no, no. s if fight and grave risk of seriously bodily harm or death and it is hard to figure out. you can't say broken nose and lacerations and therefore he couldn't have died. who is to say
this came two days after we watched rachel, who was the girl that martin talked to on the phone. she gave inconsistent and at times didn't seem like she was not wanting to be there and edgy at moments and we have testimony of john good win. and doug joins me now a former federal prosecutor. >> thank you. >> you said you have to be careful what you are watching in this is points being put on the board very carefully. we don't have a full picture yet in terms of the way it is going....
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. >> reporter: day four started as rachel jeantel day two. racial one moment, combative the next. >> are you okay this morning? >> yeah. >> you seem different than yesterday. did someone talk to you last night about your demeanor in court yesterday? >> no. >> reporter: a more subdued jean tel got questions from don west who challenged the 19-year-old's account of what she heard on the cell phone with trayvon martin a minute before the fatal shooting. >> trayvon got hit. >> you don't know that, do you? >> no, sir. >> you don't know trayvon got hit. you don't know he didn't take his fist and drive it into george zimmerman's face, do you? >> no, sir. >> reporter: moments later, when asked the same question during the grilling, the teen held firm to her account of who attacked who. >> i thought you said it could have been, for all you know, trayvon martin smashing george zimmerman in the face is what you actually heard? >> what? >> yeah. earlier today. >> by who? >> by you. >> you didn't get that from me. >> the woman whose 911 call captured the
. >> reporter: day four started as rachel jeantel day two. racial one moment, combative the next. >> are you okay this morning? >> yeah. >> you seem different than yesterday. did someone talk to you last night about your demeanor in court yesterday? >> no. >> reporter: a more subdued jean tel got questions from don west who challenged the 19-year-old's account of what she heard on the cell phone with trayvon martin a minute before the fatal shooting. >>...
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everybody ridiculed rachel for saying she heard wet grass. this same witness ridiculed hearing sneakers on wet grass, yet no one is talking about that, and i wonder why. >> mark, what about that? and also the defense attorney mark o'mara got the witness to admit it could be george zimmerman calling for help. i want to play that. >> you said that it was difficult for you to identify that screaming voice as that of george zimmerman, correct? >> yeah, i couldn't tell whose voice that was. >> have you ever heard george zimmerman scream like the person was screaming that night? >> never. >> would you consider those screams to be life threatening screams? >> yes. >> did it seem that it was the screams of somebody who was getting beat up? >> they were being hurt somehow, yes. >> maybe somebody who was having this done to them. >> it's possible. >> have you ever seen this picture before? >> yes. >> could those screams have come from somebody who was having this done to them? >> objection, speculation. >> mark, what do you make of that? >> i was wonde
everybody ridiculed rachel for saying she heard wet grass. this same witness ridiculed hearing sneakers on wet grass, yet no one is talking about that, and i wonder why. >> mark, what about that? and also the defense attorney mark o'mara got the witness to admit it could be george zimmerman calling for help. i want to play that. >> you said that it was difficult for you to identify that screaming voice as that of george zimmerman, correct? >> yeah, i couldn't tell whose voice...
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>> rachel jeantel's testimony. i think this case is all about how this thing started, who was in pursuit, who followed, who confronted whom. and i think that if the jury believes rachel jeantel beeves that she was on the phone with him, believes that george zimmerman followed trayvon martin and confronted him by asking him what are you doing around here, i thought that self-defense is going to be off the table. i do believe she was credible. she is not on trial here. i'm shocked and disappointed and disgusted quite frankly by what a lot of people said about her, both on twitter, social media, just walking in the street. i think that given the fact that she was the last person to hear her friend before he died. she's not a professional witness. but i thought she did very well on the witness stand. >> marcia? >> yes, i actually think both of them, anderson. i do think she was credible, rachel was credible, also. i have not heard the negatives that apparently sunny has, and i'm sorry to hear that. my only concern abou
>> rachel jeantel's testimony. i think this case is all about how this thing started, who was in pursuit, who followed, who confronted whom. and i think that if the jury believes rachel jeantel beeves that she was on the phone with him, believes that george zimmerman followed trayvon martin and confronted him by asking him what are you doing around here, i thought that self-defense is going to be off the table. i do believe she was credible. she is not on trial here. i'm shocked and...
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. >>> who is rachel jeantel? also, one of the 27 nfl players charged with a crime since the super bowl. >> despite the fact he has a fiancee and a baby and is a homeowner, he also has a means to flee and a bracelet won't stop him and not the $250,000. denying the bail. >> does the nfl have an image problem, or will the fans forgive as they normally do? >>> i want to begin with the teenage girl, rachel jeantel took the stand today for a second day and face add heated cross-examination from the >> you didn't have information from the news this was racially charged. >> no, i don't watch the news. >> okay. are you okay this morning? >> yes. >> you seem so different than yesterday, just checking. did someone talk -- >> is that a question? >> yes, did someone talk with you last night about your demeanor in court yesterday? >> no, i went to sleep. >> i went to sleep. i watched most of it, martin, live today and found it quite gripping because they have a 19-year-old not very well educated young girl, up against a super
. >>> who is rachel jeantel? also, one of the 27 nfl players charged with a crime since the super bowl. >> despite the fact he has a fiancee and a baby and is a homeowner, he also has a means to flee and a bracelet won't stop him and not the $250,000. denying the bail. >> does the nfl have an image problem, or will the fans forgive as they normally do? >>> i want to begin with the teenage girl, rachel jeantel took the stand today for a second day and face add...
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. >> it was the rachel maddow show, come on guys, we should be hurting them, not helping them. >> so we had to stop for ten minutes to put a little thing in about celebrities and that bothers me -- >> thank you, rachel. >> we had momentum in the show, the show was going great and we had to sit here awkwardly while tucker showed us his tie. i did not mean to impune your tie, but someone needs impuning. >> don't take it out on us. >> i know, there's no diet coke in the green room. >> and do not take it out on me bass i look like rachel. >> this app, you use it to avoid people you do not like. where do i start? >> should have used it for this show tonight, greg. >> i'm still mad. >> all right, jedidiah, you are an attractive woman in a big city, would you use it to avoid bill or people you know? >> i use stuff like this anyway. i am mad that andy levy or myself did not invent it, we could have collaborated, andy if you are listening? who doesn't want to their friends? >> i don't know, i have seen your friends, i would to. can we disconnect? >> i men, this is no different from the rest o
. >> it was the rachel maddow show, come on guys, we should be hurting them, not helping them. >> so we had to stop for ten minutes to put a little thing in about celebrities and that bothers me -- >> thank you, rachel. >> we had momentum in the show, the show was going great and we had to sit here awkwardly while tucker showed us his tie. i did not mean to impune your tie, but someone needs impuning. >> don't take it out on us. >> i know, there's no diet...
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. >> reporter: rachel said she spoke with trayvon on the phone moments before zimmerman killed him. martin had been buying snacks at a convenience store, and the two friends talked as he returned to the home of his father's fiance. she told the court martin saw a man following him. prosecutors say the voice was george zimmerman, a neighborhood watchman. she claimed she heard a scuffle. >> i heard tray son saying get off, get off. >> reporter: seconds later, the phone went dead. >> reporter: during cross-examination, defense attorney attacked her credibility. >> you were the last person to have spoken with trayvon martin. >> yes. >> but you did not report it to law enforcement. >> no. >> reporter: she became upset when he questioned the consistency of her testimony. >> i had told you -- >> reporter: the state has always questioned neighbors who saw her heard parts of the scuffle between the two men. police say no one witnessed entirely what happened that night. a neighbor said she heard a scream for help outside her window. that scream was caught on a 911 call. [ screaming ] >> many
. >> reporter: rachel said she spoke with trayvon on the phone moments before zimmerman killed him. martin had been buying snacks at a convenience store, and the two friends talked as he returned to the home of his father's fiance. she told the court martin saw a man following him. prosecutors say the voice was george zimmerman, a neighborhood watchman. she claimed she heard a scuffle. >> i heard tray son saying get off, get off. >> reporter: seconds later, the phone went...
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. >> and rachel, she's the girl who was on the phone with trayvon martin. so much has been said about her testimony, but she could be the star witness, at least for the prosecution here, depending on what she says. >> she certainly could be an important witness. we know she has an attorney, as witnesses sometimes do in high-profile cases. we know she has an inconsistency in her story where she said she didn't go to trayvon martin's memorial service because she was in the hospital. turns out there are no hospital records. she was not in the hospital. >> why is that relevant? >> she's going to have to explain that. any time a witness says something that's not true, their credibility can be attacked. >> okay. we'll see what happens next, lisa. thank you. i know you're continuing to monitor this. we'll bring you rachel's testimony from the witness stand if it happens in this hour. thank you very much. >>> coming up, police arrest patriots player aaron hernandez today as part of a murder investigation. the latest details ahead. also, we're learning or hope to le
. >> and rachel, she's the girl who was on the phone with trayvon martin. so much has been said about her testimony, but she could be the star witness, at least for the prosecution here, depending on what she says. >> she certainly could be an important witness. we know she has an attorney, as witnesses sometimes do in high-profile cases. we know she has an inconsistency in her story where she said she didn't go to trayvon martin's memorial service because she was in the hospital....
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rachel jeantel made some points saying zimmerman was the aggressor. but the defense pointed out many inconsistencies and lied in her stories. but rolled her eyes. and yet was far less combative and much more polite. the attorney for zimmerman said she may have heard things on that phone call but she didn't see anything you don't know that trayvon got hit. you didn't know that trayvon at that moment didn't take his 50s and drive the into george zimmerman's face, do you? >> no, sir. >> reporter: after court martin's parents' attorney said they were very proud of jeantel's appearance. claiming her testimony took zimmerman's defense claim and blew it up. have you * she corroborated what she said. those are major issues. >> reporter: we are beginning with a bench conference with judge debra nelson. this is day five of this much-watched murder trial and still to be called is the state's lead investigator as well as the medical examiner who did trayvon martin's autopsy. martha: the courtroom has been packed since this trial began. the seat inside is a hot co
rachel jeantel made some points saying zimmerman was the aggressor. but the defense pointed out many inconsistencies and lied in her stories. but rolled her eyes. and yet was far less combative and much more polite. the attorney for zimmerman said she may have heard things on that phone call but she didn't see anything you don't know that trayvon got hit. you didn't know that trayvon at that moment didn't take his 50s and drive the into george zimmerman's face, do you? >> no, sir....
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. >>> who is rachel jeantel? also, one of the 27 nfl players charged with a crime since the super bowl. >> despite the fact he has a fiancee and a baby and is a homeowner, he also has a means to flee and a bracelet won't stop him and not the $250,000. denying the bail. >> does the nfl have an image problem, or will the fans forgive as they normally do? >>> i want to begin with the teenage girl, rachel jeantel took the stand today for a second day and face add heated cross examination from the defense. >> if you thought it was just a fight because it was one you knew trayvon martin was planning to start? >> no, sir. he would have told me, sir, and told me to call him back or he'll call me back, sir. >> martin savidge is outside the courthouse. martin, a rather dramatic change in the way that she conducted herself today. >> reporter: oh, yeah, absolutely, piers. that's what everybody nope 'tissed, she dressed slightly different but she had been advised. she sounded that way, too, with of course, the yes, sir. unfor
. >>> who is rachel jeantel? also, one of the 27 nfl players charged with a crime since the super bowl. >> despite the fact he has a fiancee and a baby and is a homeowner, he also has a means to flee and a bracelet won't stop him and not the $250,000. denying the bail. >> does the nfl have an image problem, or will the fans forgive as they normally do? >>> i want to begin with the teenage girl, rachel jeantel took the stand today for a second day and face add...
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. >> reporter: rachel jeantel was on the phone with trayvon martin, just seconds before neighborhood watchman george zimmerman shot him february 2012. she testified that zimmerman followed him and then confronted him. but hundreds of questions from the defense, challenges her account of the pivotal moment. >> it could have been trayvon martin smashing george zimmerman in the face, is what you heard. >> what? >> yeah. just earlier today. >> by who? >> she has given the defense ammunition to argue that her testimony shouldn't be considered by the jury. >> reporter: throughout jeantel, squirmed in her seat. sometimes seemed combative. zimmerman's defense not only attacking her liability, but also exposing her inability to read this letter. >> can you read any of the words on it? >> i don't understand. cursive. i don't read cursive. >> reporter: throughout the day, she seemed to stick to her core testimony, that it was zimmerman that followed martin. and martin was afraid of zimmerman. matt gutman, abc news, sanford, florida. >>> a bishop has been arrested as the church tries to clean up
. >> reporter: rachel jeantel was on the phone with trayvon martin, just seconds before neighborhood watchman george zimmerman shot him february 2012. she testified that zimmerman followed him and then confronted him. but hundreds of questions from the defense, challenges her account of the pivotal moment. >> it could have been trayvon martin smashing george zimmerman in the face, is what you heard. >> what? >> yeah. just earlier today. >> by who? >> she has...
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rachel jontell is on the stand. let's go back to it now. >> so this is -- >> i didn't want to see somebody cry. you wouldn't want to see people crime. >> of course. >> i'm not an emotional person. >> you knew then, when you had the meeting, it would be a tough one for her. >> yeah, i was the last one to even talk to her son. >> of course. you knew she would be very interested to know. >> and emotional. >> -- and emotional, because there were a lot more questions than answers at that point in the case. right? >> yes. >> so you wound up doing that, am i correct? that you met with ms. fulton? was that on march 19th? >> yes. >> did you tell her generally what you knew about the event? >> i told her a little bit. i just -- when i saw her i gave her the letter, and she didn't even open the letter. she just asked what happened. she wanted to know what happened that night. i had told her that tray von talked to me that night. >> were you trying to make it easy forehad to understand? >> yes. >> and she opened the letter. >>
rachel jontell is on the stand. let's go back to it now. >> so this is -- >> i didn't want to see somebody cry. you wouldn't want to see people crime. >> of course. >> i'm not an emotional person. >> you knew then, when you had the meeting, it would be a tough one for her. >> yeah, i was the last one to even talk to her son. >> of course. you knew she would be very interested to know. >> and emotional. >> -- and emotional, because there were...
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>> i think rachel's team was great, anderson. she stood fast. her testimony was consistent, and as you see, she through various attempts to i'm peach her, held her own. >> she seemed less combative in her testimony today than yesterday. did you or your colleagues prepare her for today's testimony or give her advice on what to do differently? >> no, she has her own counsel in this case, however, remember, yesterday she came at the latter part of the court day. so she was tired and most people sitting in court were tired and we went fairly late. so i believe that she was just tired. obviously, once she was given the chance to rest overnight, came back and she was a great witness. she was very respectful to the court and gave very precise answers. >> so, you're saying you nor mr. crump gave her advice about what to do differently today on the stand? >> no, as a matter of fact, i believe she was in the custody of the agents. we had no access to her whatsoever. >> do you feel the defense attorney john west was too hash with her today? >> well, i thin
>> i think rachel's team was great, anderson. she stood fast. her testimony was consistent, and as you see, she through various attempts to i'm peach her, held her own. >> she seemed less combative in her testimony today than yesterday. did you or your colleagues prepare her for today's testimony or give her advice on what to do differently? >> no, she has her own counsel in this case, however, remember, yesterday she came at the latter part of the court day. so she was tired...
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what do you think of rachel and the fact that she's almost universally criticized? >> well she's not universally criticized, i have to tell you this. they have not what we expected. she's this coffee colored perfectly coifed young lady who was so cool and so composed. we did not expect trayvon's girlfriend who we had been hearing about for the past year to be so dark and lovely. we're in a looks driven society and still have a lot of contempt for dark, dark, dark skinned people but beyond that -- >> but what about her manner? >> her manner, her defiance was stunning to people but she was standing her ground. she was determined to tell trayvon's story. i can agree with my colleague with the other guest that this was a tremendous burden for this young woman although she's 19 now, she was a child then and i still consider thoeshher to be child. she's the star witness. she can put someone away for life. she's trying to figure it out how it is the police told this man to stay in the car and trayvon ended up dead. >> don west posted this instagram, we pate stupidity. cele
what do you think of rachel and the fact that she's almost universally criticized? >> well she's not universally criticized, i have to tell you this. they have not what we expected. she's this coffee colored perfectly coifed young lady who was so cool and so composed. we did not expect trayvon's girlfriend who we had been hearing about for the past year to be so dark and lovely. we're in a looks driven society and still have a lot of contempt for dark, dark, dark skinned people but beyond...
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rachel jeantel has been on stand for the past two days. do you think her testimony went well for the defense? because she was really billed as the prosecution's star witness. do you think it's worked in the defense's favor? >> well, you know, i think that she was a reticent witness, i don't think she wanted to be involved and waited so long and found out by happenstance. i was most concerned not with her testimony but the way she started with mr. crump's interview, off record without law enforcement there and more problematic, the interview, she's sitting right next to trayvon martin's mother when she's supposed to give her first sworn law enforcement statement and in that statement she didn't tell the truth on a number of issues. i think she didn't want to be there. she was reluctant and i think that reluctancy showed up in her testimony today and yesterday. >> and stressing in the court todd ant the presence of trayvon martin's mother during that interview with law enforcement, to you that says what? that there's potential that either sh
rachel jeantel has been on stand for the past two days. do you think her testimony went well for the defense? because she was really billed as the prosecution's star witness. do you think it's worked in the defense's favor? >> well, you know, i think that she was a reticent witness, i don't think she wanted to be involved and waited so long and found out by happenstance. i was most concerned not with her testimony but the way she started with mr. crump's interview, off record without law...
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rachel jenteel. why didn't people understand her? we'll talk about black english. you don't want to miss this conversation. ( bell rings ) they remind me so much of my grandkids. wish i saw mine more often, but they live so far away. i've been thinking about moving in with my daughter and her family. it's been pretty tough since jack passed away. it's a good thing you had life insurance through the colonial penn program. you're right. it was affordable, and we were guaranteed acceptance. guaranteed acceptance? it means you can't be turned down because of your health. you don't have to take a physical or answer any health questions. they don't care about your aches and pains. well, how do you know? did you speak to alex trebek? because i have a policy myself. it costs just $9.95 a month per unit. it's perfect for my budget. my rate will never go up. and my coverage will never go down because of my age. affordable coverage and guaranteed acceptance? we should give them a call. do you want to help protect your loved ones from the burden of final expenses? if you're be
rachel jenteel. why didn't people understand her? we'll talk about black english. you don't want to miss this conversation. ( bell rings ) they remind me so much of my grandkids. wish i saw mine more often, but they live so far away. i've been thinking about moving in with my daughter and her family. it's been pretty tough since jack passed away. it's a good thing you had life insurance through the colonial penn program. you're right. it was affordable, and we were guaranteed acceptance....
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. >> 19-year-old rachel gentel back on the stand. this time appearing more subdued but as the day progressed her answers grew more intense. >> yes, sir. >> she testified she was on the phone with 17-year-old trayvon martin moments before he was shot and killed by george zimmerman. she told jurors an attorney for trayvon martin's family first asked her if race was a factor that night. she was asked about that again in court thursday. >> describing the person is what made you think it was racial. >> yes. >> and that's because he described him as a creepy [ bleep ] cracker. >> yes. >> but on thursday she testified she omitted that description in a letter to trayvon martin's mother. >> of course you wouldn't say it to sabrina fulton because it was offensive, correct? >> yes, that was disrespectful. >> also in question, the last thing she heard. >> get off, get off. >> she testified she heard the words get off, get off, before the phone went dead. but she also said this. >> so the last thing you heard was some kind of noise like something
. >> 19-year-old rachel gentel back on the stand. this time appearing more subdued but as the day progressed her answers grew more intense. >> yes, sir. >> she testified she was on the phone with 17-year-old trayvon martin moments before he was shot and killed by george zimmerman. she told jurors an attorney for trayvon martin's family first asked her if race was a factor that night. she was asked about that again in court thursday. >> describing the person is what made...
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rachel calls that into question. she also said she heard another deeper voice saying what are you doing here? that would have been according to this, george zimmerman. the big picture here, three weeks have gone by since trayvon martin had died and nobody had been arrested. george zimmerman hadn't been arrested. then this woman comes forward and interviewed by the family and he has a news conference that built the civil right action and activists to call and demand george zimmerman's arrest. the governor .ed to a special prosecutor and he was charged with second-degree murder. >> mercedes, what do you think of this going here? >> disasterous, absolutely disasterous. >> for? >> for zimmerman. here is someone you could have knocked out of the park and brought out those inconsistencies and said you lied when you said you didn't go to the wake because you were at the hospital. 1k3* now you are saying it is because you didn't want to see the body like that. frankly drive it home that you have an agenda here and this is wh
rachel calls that into question. she also said she heard another deeper voice saying what are you doing here? that would have been according to this, george zimmerman. the big picture here, three weeks have gone by since trayvon martin had died and nobody had been arrested. george zimmerman hadn't been arrested. then this woman comes forward and interviewed by the family and he has a news conference that built the civil right action and activists to call and demand george zimmerman's arrest....
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yesterday, the 19-year-old rachel janteal took the stand. >> he said while are you following him. trayvon, trayvon. i started hearing trayvon saying get off, get off. i did agree with my friend, though, to go -- >> in order -- >> you have to understand -- the last person to talk to him, died on the phone. you got to understand what i'm telling you. i'm the last person, you don't know how i felt. >> in the busy news day that was wednesday, you can be excused to missing one of the most eye-popping interviews. paula deen finally made good with her interview with matt lauer. on the same day she lost more endorsement deals, home depot and walmart. >> there have been some truthful l -- hurtful lies said about me. >> african-americans are offended by the "n" word? >> i don't know, matt, i have sy times because it's very distressing for me to go into my kitchens and i hear what these young people are calling each other. what you see is what you get. i'm not an actress. i'm heartbroken. if there is anyone out there that has never said something that they wish they could take back, if you'r
yesterday, the 19-year-old rachel janteal took the stand. >> he said while are you following him. trayvon, trayvon. i started hearing trayvon saying get off, get off. i did agree with my friend, though, to go -- >> in order -- >> you have to understand -- the last person to talk to him, died on the phone. you got to understand what i'm telling you. i'm the last person, you don't know how i felt. >> in the busy news day that was wednesday, you can be excused to missing...
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i think that rachel was a great, great witness. and i think that as we move forward we will hear from other people. >> laura: how was she a great witness? >> she was an excellent witness. she was an excellent witness. she stuck to her story. she stuck. >> laura: she changed her story. >> whether or not people understood -- whether or not people understood what she was saying, she stuck with it and she told the truth from her perspective. >> laura. >> laura: she changed her story. i understood everything she said. >> she -- >> laura: guys, she is not on trial. it's just that she is a witness for the prosecution. and she ultimately will be helpful or not helpful to the prosecution. that's all that's involved with, you know, ms. jeantel. >> i think she was very helpful for the prosecution because she proved. >> exactly. she was great. >> he was the aggressor. >> that's right. >> laura: michael and jasmine i think her credibility got absolutely hammered yesterday. we will see. directly ahead, fans of paula deen are racing to buy her co
i think that rachel was a great, great witness. and i think that as we move forward we will hear from other people. >> laura: how was she a great witness? >> she was an excellent witness. she was an excellent witness. she stuck to her story. she stuck. >> laura: she changed her story. >> whether or not people understood -- whether or not people understood what she was saying, she stuck with it and she told the truth from her perspective. >> laura. >> laura:...
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her name is rachel jeantel. she was trayvon martin's friend. she told the jury she was on the phone with him when he approached the teen. >> he said why are you following me and i heard him say what are you doing around here. >> martin savage is in florida for us. everybody was watching her. she was the person speaking to trayvon martin the last moment he was alive and as he died what else did she say? >> reporter: from a totally nonlegal perspective it was one of the most remarkable testimonies i have ever seen. and there is a lot you can talk about. let's talk about the specifics. on top of saying she claims it was george zimmerman she could hear being the aggressor she says she can hear trayvon saying get off, get off. that would clearly imply it moved beyond george zimmerman confronting the teen to assaulting the team and perhaps on top of the teen which flies in the face of the self-defense. she said previously and on the stand that the voice, the 911 call, the screaming heard in the background she talks to trayvon, did talk to him all the
her name is rachel jeantel. she was trayvon martin's friend. she told the jury she was on the phone with him when he approached the teen. >> he said why are you following me and i heard him say what are you doing around here. >> martin savage is in florida for us. everybody was watching her. she was the person speaking to trayvon martin the last moment he was alive and as he died what else did she say? >> reporter: from a totally nonlegal perspective it was one of the most...
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this one about a transcript taken from rachel jeantel. listen to this. >> according to this transcript you just saw, when mr. de la rionda said can you tell who was saying that, you said i couldn't hear trayvon, trayvon. >> i couldn't hear. read the next page, sir. >> could you tell who was saying that? i could of heard trayvon. >> i couldn't. >> here is what this says. >> trust me, they messed up. >> all right, mark. this is critical potentially to the case. she says trust me, they messed up meaning she was misquoted in that earlier transcript. are jurors likely to believe that? >> look, could of does not establish this case beyond a reasonable doubt or her testimony beyond a reasonable doubt. could have is ambiguous. it is maybe yes, maybe know, beyond a reasonable doubt is the standard. could of doesn't cut it. i think during the same exchange it comes up later she says she could hear wet grass. i can't imagine that the jurors are going to find her to be credible and this case, this will be the cornerstone of this case. i think the sta
this one about a transcript taken from rachel jeantel. listen to this. >> according to this transcript you just saw, when mr. de la rionda said can you tell who was saying that, you said i couldn't hear trayvon, trayvon. >> i couldn't hear. read the next page, sir. >> could you tell who was saying that? i could of heard trayvon. >> i couldn't. >> here is what this says. >> trust me, they messed up. >> all right, mark. this is critical potentially to the...
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the second day on the stand for rachel jeantel. her demeanor changed today. >> you didn't know anything about this case on the news following the shooting on february 26th. prior to your interview with mr. crump on march 19th? >> no, sir. >> of course, you don't know if he was telling you the truth or not? >> why he need to lie about that, sir? >> maybe if he decided to assault george zimmerman, he didn't want you to know about it? >> that's very retarded, sir. yes, sir, yes, sir. yes, sir. >> i'm really confused. are you saying -- >> the state attorney has trouble hearing me. listen to me. >> in prior statements, you said the phone cut off, correct? >> yes, sir. did i call him back, sir. >> of course. but you didn't get an answer. didn't that make you even more worried? >> i called back again, sir. >> and i assume that would heighten -- >> and i had texts, sir. >> still no answer. >> no, sir. >> okay. so which side did she help? let me go to you, bernie. the defense attorney made some thought that she didn't call 911 afterward. if
the second day on the stand for rachel jeantel. her demeanor changed today. >> you didn't know anything about this case on the news following the shooting on february 26th. prior to your interview with mr. crump on march 19th? >> no, sir. >> of course, you don't know if he was telling you the truth or not? >> why he need to lie about that, sir? >> maybe if he decided to assault george zimmerman, he didn't want you to know about it? >> that's very retarded,...
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lawyers have wrapped up questioning of the big witness, rachel jeantel. the judge has allowed her to leave for the day. she does remain under subpoena and may be called back to testify. lisa bloom joins me now. right now we're hearing from a technician from t-mobile. >> that's. his name is raymond macdonald. senior management. i assume this is probably a regular part of his job. he has to go into trial when phone records are at issue. here are our phone records, they're legitimate. >> here he is now. >> in this case these are the phone records that are so important between trayvon martin and rachel jeantel. they were on the phone all day either talking or texting according to her testimony. >> that was pretty brief given how long we saw rachel jeantel. i want to play an excerpt from the back and forth, more heated exchange between rachel jeantel and the defense attorney. let's play it. >> trayvon got hit. >> you don't know that, do you? >> no. >> you don't know that trayvon got hit. >> he claims he had. >> you don't know that trayvon at that moment didn't
lawyers have wrapped up questioning of the big witness, rachel jeantel. the judge has allowed her to leave for the day. she does remain under subpoena and may be called back to testify. lisa bloom joins me now. right now we're hearing from a technician from t-mobile. >> that's. his name is raymond macdonald. senior management. i assume this is probably a regular part of his job. he has to go into trial when phone records are at issue. here are our phone records, they're legitimate....
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perhaps she spoke to an attorney who said, hey, rachel, pull it back. be a little more respectful. her response to all of that was, no, i just got some sleep. >> thanks so much. we'll check back with you later as we continue to monitor this dramatic testimony in the zimmerman case. we'll take a short break and be right back. having some fiber! with new phillips' fiber good gummies. they're fruity delicious! just two gummies have 4 grams of fiber! to help support regularity! i want some... [ woman ] hop on over! [ marge ] fiber the fun way, from phillips'. starts with freshly-made pasta, and 100% real cheddar cheese. but what makes stouffer's mac n' cheese best of all. that moment you enjoy it at home. stouffer's. made with care for you or your family. ...and we inspected his brakes for free. -free is good. -free is very good. [ male announcer ] now get 50% off brake pads and shoes at meineke. >>> welcome back to continuing coverage of the trial. i want to bring in legal analyst and also defense attorney mike gentlem and i am curious what you heard and also the manner in which it is
perhaps she spoke to an attorney who said, hey, rachel, pull it back. be a little more respectful. her response to all of that was, no, i just got some sleep. >> thanks so much. we'll check back with you later as we continue to monitor this dramatic testimony in the zimmerman case. we'll take a short break and be right back. having some fiber! with new phillips' fiber good gummies. they're fruity delicious! just two gummies have 4 grams of fiber! to help support regularity! i want some......
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what do you think of rachel and the fact she is universally criticized? >> i have to tell you she was not what we expected. this is so composed young lady. we didn't expected trayvon's girlfriend to be so dark and so lovely. we are in a look serving society. we still have a lot of contempt for dark, dark skinned people. beyond that... her manner, her defiance was stunning to people. she was determined to tell trayvon's story. i can agree with my colleague by other guest this was a tremendous burden for this young woman, although she is 19 she was child then. she has a tremendous responsibility. she is the star witness. she could put someone away for life. she is trying to figure how it is the police told this man stay in the car and her friend ended up dead. >> judge jeanine: the person that cross-examined her, we beat stupidity, celebration cones. is this case about race? >> you know what, they want to deny that it is not about race. when i heard this most recent press conference but it does come down to race. it comes down to race to profiling but it's
what do you think of rachel and the fact she is universally criticized? >> i have to tell you she was not what we expected. this is so composed young lady. we didn't expected trayvon's girlfriend to be so dark and so lovely. we are in a look serving society. we still have a lot of contempt for dark, dark skinned people. beyond that... her manner, her defiance was stunning to people. she was determined to tell trayvon's story. i can agree with my colleague by other guest this was a...
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eye and ear witness, just like yesterday, rachel jeantel an ear witness at that very moment. what is significant about this is who he thinks was on top. have a listen. >> all right. if you could, could you tell at that time in terms of describing who was on top and who was on the bottom? >> i could only see colors of clothing. >> the color of clothing on top, what could you see? >> it was dark. >> okay. how about the color of clothing at the bottom? >> i believe it was a light, white or red color. >> to mark knee jay, cnn analyst, well known trial attorney in the florida yeah, now all around the country because of all the coverage you have been doing on the case and other high profile case, a big moment. that's the moment where people wondered, why did the prosecution call this man? >> i think it was a simard move, ashleigh, because a smart move, ashleigh, if the state didn't call this witness, the jury will. he wants credibility and he wants to do his best to take the wind out of the sail of the defense. the last reason he would have called is you rempgsed it earlier. he was
eye and ear witness, just like yesterday, rachel jeantel an ear witness at that very moment. what is significant about this is who he thinks was on top. have a listen. >> all right. if you could, could you tell at that time in terms of describing who was on top and who was on the bottom? >> i could only see colors of clothing. >> the color of clothing on top, what could you see? >> it was dark. >> okay. how about the color of clothing at the bottom? >> i...
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. >> reporter: rachel jeantel says she was on the phone with trayvon martin when zimmerman approached him in this sanford neighborhood. she claims she heard a scuffle. >> i heard trayvon saying get off >> reporter: but during cross-examination defense attorney don west repeatedly pressed her on what she heard and if she really heard what was said. >> i did hear get off, sir. >> but you don't know what it meant because you didn't see any of this, correct? >> no, sir. >> west questioned jeantel's credibility, pointing out that she sent a letter to trayvon's parents about what she heard that night but didn't sign her real name. he also accused her of changing her story. >> are you sure those are the words trayvon martin said or could you have been sort of trying to figure out what was said and that's what you came up with? >> i'm sure. >> reporter: jeantel's testimony is key to the prosecution's case. the state is trying to prove the neighborhood watchman chased down the teenager before shooting and killing him. but defense claims it was martin that attacked their client. >> you thought
. >> reporter: rachel jeantel says she was on the phone with trayvon martin when zimmerman approached him in this sanford neighborhood. she claims she heard a scuffle. >> i heard trayvon saying get off >> reporter: but during cross-examination defense attorney don west repeatedly pressed her on what she heard and if she really heard what was said. >> i did hear get off, sir. >> but you don't know what it meant because you didn't see any of this, correct? >>...
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and again, rachel jeantel, more composed than the first day on the witness stand. but seven, long hours being grilled, what did it do to the prosecution's case? >> she's a flawed witness. this is not the witness that you want if you're the prosecution. and this is the last person who spoke to trayvon martin. there are inconsistencies in her story. as you heard, she was attacked, again and again, on cross-examination. with that said, you saw that section there where she talks about the fact that she can't read cursive. she doesn't seem educated. but don't underestimate her. she was still smart. the defense attorney was trying to ask her questions to get her to admit things but she caught it. and she said, that's not what i said. so, while she's not someone is worldly, so to speak, she understood what she was being asked and she understood the questions. and she took on the defense attorney, again and again, as he was trying to question her. >> now, we have called rachel jeantel the most important witness for the prosecution's case. but there was more testimony yeste
and again, rachel jeantel, more composed than the first day on the witness stand. but seven, long hours being grilled, what did it do to the prosecution's case? >> she's a flawed witness. this is not the witness that you want if you're the prosecution. and this is the last person who spoke to trayvon martin. there are inconsistencies in her story. as you heard, she was attacked, again and again, on cross-examination. with that said, you saw that section there where she talks about the...
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we're talking about rachel jeantel. i'll call out a different moment of the day, selma maura saying there was a gunshot and after it the man with the black and red kt ja, the man on top moved. the man on the bottom did not, seems to establish, vinnie politan, that the person on top of the fight, the person in control was george zimmerman, and that will mean a lot in terms of can feel defense analysis. your take? >> oh, absolutely. if george zimmerman is on top and you have a witness with saying he has the red and black jacket, it's clear who is in control. how do you claim self-defense if you're on top of the person you're shooting. you have a gun, they don't have a gun. to me that was powerful, chris. what are you going to do with that danny? >> that's right, how dare you argue that in the first place. danny you're not arguing it, don't look so scared but i want to you explain it for everybody at home. if it is established that george zimmerman was in control, what would he have to do to use self-defense to get out of
we're talking about rachel jeantel. i'll call out a different moment of the day, selma maura saying there was a gunshot and after it the man with the black and red kt ja, the man on top moved. the man on the bottom did not, seems to establish, vinnie politan, that the person on top of the fight, the person in control was george zimmerman, and that will mean a lot in terms of can feel defense analysis. your take? >> oh, absolutely. if george zimmerman is on top and you have a witness with...
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. >> rachel jeantel, the girlfriend of trayvon martin. tell me what you told me during commercial break about something interesting that happened. >> she socked -- talked about the first thymetime she was interviewed by police, they were picked up in two cars, one car was the detective, a state attorney, and the other car was trayvon's mother and mr. crump, their lawyer. they went to trayvon's mother's house and the police interviewed her, or shy say mr. della rhonda interviewed her in trayvon's mother's living room with mr. fulton sitting next to her. never heard of that. imagine in the heron heron case right now they went to interview a witness who saw him in an altercation with lloyd and the victim and they picked up lloyd's mother and brought her to set next to the witness to take a statement from. it's -- >> so it's unduly influences forthcoming testimony of jeantel. >> the witness admitted she didn't disclose things because she felt bad for the mother. >> lots more to talk about in the george zimmerman take. there's in a break right
. >> rachel jeantel, the girlfriend of trayvon martin. tell me what you told me during commercial break about something interesting that happened. >> she socked -- talked about the first thymetime she was interviewed by police, they were picked up in two cars, one car was the detective, a state attorney, and the other car was trayvon's mother and mr. crump, their lawyer. they went to trayvon's mother's house and the police interviewed her, or shy say mr. della rhonda interviewed her...
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. >> that lady's name is rachel zontel. she was on the phone with him shortly before he was shot and killed. she admitted on the stand she does not know who started the fight between zimmerman and martin. her testimony left out her credibility because she changed her story a bunch of times. before taking the stand she had dozens of embarrassing tweets and removed tweets and references to drinking and getting high. >> rescuers say an american scooter between waters sank. they have knot given up hope for survivors. 7 people were on board the sailboat 6 of them americans. the last contact with them was june 4th during rough record. >> the last couple days indicated the yacht was still afloat they would have seen it in this area. we are assuming it is not in the search arir area. >> they are searching for survivor who's might have escaped in a life raft or escaped. >> paula deen book number one on the best seller list. it isn't out until october. this is good news for dean but comes as target announced it is the next company to
. >> that lady's name is rachel zontel. she was on the phone with him shortly before he was shot and killed. she admitted on the stand she does not know who started the fight between zimmerman and martin. her testimony left out her credibility because she changed her story a bunch of times. before taking the stand she had dozens of embarrassing tweets and removed tweets and references to drinking and getting high. >> rescuers say an american scooter between waters sank. they have...
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i maintain that how can you coach rachel? she is who she is. she doesn't seem to be a person who takes direction. >> and legally you actually have to be very -- i coach lawyers, and you have to be very careful how you do that, and also i don't know -- >> so could you coach a person like her? >> actually you could coach. you have to be very careful in terms of the legal issues of doing that, what you say. the times that in her -- the nuances, the science of the voice, when she said yes, sir, by the way, 23 times, she hissed out the yes and stridently struck on the sir which discounted the validity and made the sir a slap. so we see a great model of defiance, teenage behavior, but it's not right for the setting. >> we'll see how it went over with the moms on the jury, right? patty wood, thank you so much. >> you're welcome. >> alison? >>> okay. cheers and shouts at the supreme court. landmark decisions punctuate a historic term for the court, but did the justices leave the constitution behind in favor of public opinion? we're going to take a look
i maintain that how can you coach rachel? she is who she is. she doesn't seem to be a person who takes direction. >> and legally you actually have to be very -- i coach lawyers, and you have to be very careful how you do that, and also i don't know -- >> so could you coach a person like her? >> actually you could coach. you have to be very careful in terms of the legal issues of doing that, what you say. the times that in her -- the nuances, the science of the voice, when she...
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and the state's star witness rachel is expected to return to the stand. she is a friend of the victim, trayvon martin and considered to be a linchpin of the prosecution's case against zimmerman. the state said martin through the bloechlt she is having credibility trouble and caught in more than one lie under cross examination by defense attorney don west. joining me is judge alex perrie. >> and your overall take on the credibility of the witness. >> credibility wise she is poor. you feel better today from a prosecution stand point she is better today. she was horrible yesterday and she is consistently inconsistent and brings up words and phrases get off, get off. >> that is an important point. >> critical. that means zimmerman is on top. >> they will argue about who was on top of whom in the beating. and she is adding fuel to the file and said trayvon was getting beating. and except that was never there. how do you leave out i heard him saying get off, get off. and it doesn't come up way down the road when she was interviewed by the police. >> she came ou
and the state's star witness rachel is expected to return to the stand. she is a friend of the victim, trayvon martin and considered to be a linchpin of the prosecution's case against zimmerman. the state said martin through the bloechlt she is having credibility trouble and caught in more than one lie under cross examination by defense attorney don west. joining me is judge alex perrie. >> and your overall take on the credibility of the witness. >> credibility wise she is poor. you...
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how uncomfortable was everybody with rachel? it has us as african-americans looking at the neighborhoods and oh my gosh. white people a little bit uncomfortable with why did she show up like this? it says about classism. talks about exposure, opportunity. >> the casualness of language. >> the casualness of language. >> enlightening for some people and why's it distracting from the facts of the case? >> a change between her -- the way she testified on day one, her first day testifying and the way she testified the second day and seemed like whether it was an attorney or whether it was a family member, somebody told her, look, the way you're being perceived here is negative and is detrimentally proving -- >> did it -- >> no, sir. >> it seemed like an extra dig. >> sir? >> probably coached. i don't know that it was -- >> perceived better. >> she said, no, i just got some sleep. >> i heard it. i don't know that i believe it. >> i didn't like it. i didn't like it. >> what did that say to you? >> the sir, the sir, the sir. it says tha
how uncomfortable was everybody with rachel? it has us as african-americans looking at the neighborhoods and oh my gosh. white people a little bit uncomfortable with why did she show up like this? it says about classism. talks about exposure, opportunity. >> the casualness of language. >> the casualness of language. >> enlightening for some people and why's it distracting from the facts of the case? >> a change between her -- the way she testified on day one, her first...
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i want to get to rachel's testimony first. what do you make of her? there were certainly inconsis sees. do you believe she helped the prosecution? >> i do. everything she says is corroborated by other evidence, so why not believe her? the phone records corroborate she was on the phone. >> she said she heard the sound of wet grass. did you buy that? >> when you're talking to an ear witness, a lot of times, anderson say things like that like i heard the wind. i heard rattling. that is not unusual. i heard a lot of people saying today how does somebody hear wet grass. when you hear that described, i can hear something, so i actually think that she came across believable because she's not a professional witness. she is an everyday person on the witness stand. she clearly doesn't want to be there, and again, all of her testimony is cob rated by other people. she said trayvon was screaming for help. another witness says he was screaming for help. >> danny, the defense was obviously trying to show inconsistencies. >> she's an everyday witness and everyday no
i want to get to rachel's testimony first. what do you make of her? there were certainly inconsis sees. do you believe she helped the prosecution? >> i do. everything she says is corroborated by other evidence, so why not believe her? the phone records corroborate she was on the phone. >> she said she heard the sound of wet grass. did you buy that? >> when you're talking to an ear witness, a lot of times, anderson say things like that like i heard the wind. i heard rattling....
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. >> reporter: rachel jeantel testified she spoke with martin on the phone moments before george zimmerman had killed him. martin had been buying snacks at a local convenience store and the two friends talked before he returned to his father's home. jeantel said he told her a man was following him and heard a voice saying what you doing around here. she claims she then heard a scuffle. >> i kind of heard trayvon saying get off, get off. seconds later the phone went dead. during cross-examination defense attorney don west attacked her credibility. >> you're the last person to have spoke within trayvon martin. >> yes. >> but you did not report it to law enforcement. >> i thought they're supposed to call you. >> reporter: jeantel became upset when he questioned the consistency of her testimony. >> i had told you -- are you listening? >> neighbors only heard or saw parts of the scuffle between the two men. police say no one witnessed entirely what happened that night. neighbor jane surdyka said she heard a scream outside her window. that scream was caught on the 911 call. >> i really felt it w
. >> reporter: rachel jeantel testified she spoke with martin on the phone moments before george zimmerman had killed him. martin had been buying snacks at a local convenience store and the two friends talked before he returned to his father's home. jeantel said he told her a man was following him and heard a voice saying what you doing around here. she claims she then heard a scuffle. >> i kind of heard trayvon saying get off, get off. seconds later the phone went dead. during...